Stephanie welcomes singer-songwriter Melanie Penn for a heartfelt conversation about faith, creativity, and the power of redemptive storytelling through music. Faith, worship, and creativity are deeply intertwined. Whether through music, storytelling, or daily life, God calls us to partner in bringing beauty from brokenness, to be honest in our journeys, and to recognize His redemptive hand at work even in the darkest moments.

Melanie Penn shares her unique journey as a worship leader, pointing out that this role can mean different things in different church settings. While she served in a traditional PCA church, at Redeemer Presbyterian under the leadership of late Tim Keller, where the “worship leader” guides congregational singing and scripture, Melanie emphasizes that her primary calling has become storytelling through faith-driven songwriting. She encourages us to widen our understanding of worship leadership—it extends beyond church walls and formal titles, and anyone whose art or actions point others to God partakes in worship leading.

Every song Melanie writes is an act of faith. She explains that there’s an element of doubt in the creative process, but she repeatedly experiences the Holy Spirit’s presence as inspiration and ideas unfold. She calls creativity a “faith-building experience,” mirroring how God brings something tangible from nothing. Melanie invites us all to see all life’s creative acts, whether songwriting or problem-solving, as incarnational—reflecting God’s own creative nature.

Drawing on her earlier album “Immanuel,” Melanie shares how God transformed her loneliest, most painful Christmas into a season of inspired songwriting. It’s a personal testament to how God brings beauty from brokenness. However, she wisely cautions against oversimplifying suffering, acknowledging that some redemption stories are not resolved in this life—but faith keeps us trusting.

Melanie’s latest album, “The Rising,” is a musical journey from Christ’s burial to Ascension, told through first-person narratives of biblical characters. The creative sequencing is intentional: each song not only unfolds chronologically but also layers meaning—from Creation to New Creation, as Stephanie observes. Songs like “The Morning” (personifying the resurrection dawn) and “The Man on the Middle Cross” (based on the thief’s encounter with grace) invite listeners to see themselves in the redemptive story.

Songs spotlighting characters like Peter, Mary Magdalene, and Thomas reflect deep emotional truths. Melanie explores Peter’s restoration with gentleness, suggesting Jesus’s threefold question—“Do you love me?”—is not punitive but restorative. In the story of Mary Magdalene encountering the risen Christ, the intimacy of Jesus calling her by name is set to music that leaves sacred space for silence and wonder. Thomas's doubt gives voice to modern “deconstruction” struggles, reminding us that doubt and faith often walk hand-in-hand.

Melanie’s creative process is prayerful and open, often sparked while walking and reflecting with God. She emphasizes the importance of discernment—knowing which ideas to share or hold private—and the value of collaboration in shaping the final message.

As Melanie Penn’s music invites us, let us step into the biblical narrative, find ourselves in its grace, and join the ongoing song of resurrection and hope.

MORE FROM MELANIE PENN

Melanie Penn is a classically trained vocalist and songwriter now based in Nashville, TN. For many years she was part of New York’s theater scene, and portrayed Sandy in the Broadway national tour of Grease! where she starred alongside legendary actor and entertainer Frankie Avalon. Penn also served as a worship leader at the city’s Redeemer Presbyterian Church under the leadership of the late bestselling author and theologian Tim Keller.

Penn has released multiple albums in collaboration with producer Ben Shive, including Wake Up Love (2010), Hope Tonight (2015) and More Alive Volume 1 and Volume 2 (2020/2022). Her critically acclaimed 2017 concept project, Immanuel, a journey through the Christmas story, reached #1 on Amazon’s Christian, Worship and Holiday Download charts.

The Rising: A Resurrection album is her latest project and expected to release throughout 2025.

Here is her Christmas worship album (one of Stephanie’s favorites!): https://www.melaniepenn.com/immanuel 

More about Melanie and her latest album, “the Rising”: https://www.melaniepenn.com/ 

"The Rising" presents a unique artistic approach to one of history’s most significant events, with each song written from the first-person perspective of biblical figures who witnessed

the resurrection firsthand. Through the voices of Peter, Thomas, Mary Magdalene, and others, Melanie crafts an intimate musical narrative that brings ancient accounts into contemporary focus. The album draws exclusively from Gospel writings, offering listeners an immersive experience that bridges the gap between biblical history and modern worship. Melanie’s approach transforms familiar resurrection accounts into personal testimonies, allowing listeners to experience these pivotal moments through the eyes of those who lived them. The Rising features eleven songs, including: Man of Sorrows, Roll That Stone Away, Let There Be Light, Man on the Middle Cross, The Gardener, and I will Come Back for You.

Website: https://www.melaniepenn.com 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melaniepenn/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melaniepennsings/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/melaniepennnyc

Album: The Rising – A Resurrection Album, releasing September 19, 2025

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